Is there really a Michelle Obama Whitey tape
Well Larry over at NoQuarter has released another update on the illusive Michelle Obama tape that is supposed to have Michelle Obama testifying in Trinity church railing about whitey and how the white man has kept her down. I first heard this a couple of weeks ago and while I can’t stand Barak Obama and think he is the worst thing that could ever happen to this country, I’ve been skeptical about its existence. Well Larry has kept up his position that it does exist and there will be more information on Monday about this.
A couple of hours ago Roger Stone alluded to the tape’s existence and said someone in the media has it. To me this is very interesting as it is the first time I’ve heard this story on a major news outlet. Of course I’m not sure it will make any difference in the nomination process as it appears the MSM and the DNC have made their decision about who will be the Democratic nominee, no matter what that does to the Democratic party.
I’m sure everyone is aware how the DNC rules committee vote yesterday to pretty much spit in the face of democracy when the split Florida’s delegates in half and basically said those voters did not count. Of course the Florida Decision was pale in comparison to what they did in Michigan where they decided what the votes of voters meant and gave those votes to a candidate that was not even on the ballot. At first I thought the Michigan was not fair, but since Obama voluntarily took his name off the ballot, then why should he have gotten any votes. Of course not to mention that the DNC rules committee took delegates and votes away from Hillary and gave them to Obama. Its amazing what our country has become, we are supposed to be the light of democracy to the world but we if you consider the last few presidential elections then we are failing in that regard. Everyone thought the Florida presidential election in 2000 was flawed but at least the thievery then was nothing comparing to the outright stealing of votes by the DNC rules yesterday.
Well back to the tape, if it is released tomorrow then it will be really interesting. Of course the MSM will spin it and tell us we just don’t understand. I’m sure Obama will come out and say those comments do not reflect his opinion and he had no idea she may have felt that way. If the video does exist it will be very interesting to see how the Obama campaign handles this and what will be more interesting is to see how the left wing MSM handles it. What happens will really let me know whether I need to continue my plans to move to New Zealand. That’s right if this country continues then I’m going somewhere else where life is not so full of crap and I think New Zealand may be that place.
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And if the tape doesn’t exist, you and your fellow creatures will look like idiots.
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that hillary is getting any delegates from two states where the democrats agreed the votes wouldn’t be counted is actually what’s unfair, you moron. not only is she getting delegates, she’s benefiting. obama is being punished because he played by the rules.
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Patrick, So you tihnk its fair that Obama was given 4 delegates that would have been assigned to Hillary? And that Obama was given delegates that culd have been a vote for Daffy Duck. I just want to make sure I understand your argument here.
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Admin, you flaming moron. What he’s saying is that NOBODY should get ANY delegates whatsoever from Florida or Michigan. They broke the rules, they deserve to be punished. If you have a problem with that take it up with the idiots who broke the rules and illegally moved the primary date.
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admin, it’s hard to understand how you believe Michigan’s primary is worth anything. A vote with only one candidate on the ballot is not very honorable, moreso when it was agreed upon that no delegates would be awarded. Stop making kindergarten arguments and use some critical thought. Fashion your beliefs as if you had no affinity for a candidate.
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The MSM is controlled and owned by Republicans. If this existed, it would be out; we’re already subject to non-stop Barack Bashing in the media as it is.
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Is this website just a hoax or are people really this stupid?
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Wouldn’t it make more sense to hold that video back till after Hillary and Obama have settled things?
That way it can be used to nuke Obama in the general election.
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I’ve really never seen such disingenuousness in politics as I see from the Clinton camp these days… and that is saying something.
Clinton and top surrogates voted to punish Michigan and Florida and Clinton agreed and signed a pledge. She had AMPLE opportunity to fight for Florida and Michigan to count prior to the countests being held, but she did not.
She put ZERO effort into counting Florida and Michigan before they voted. It was only AFTER they voted and voted for her that she suddendly decided to “fight” for the “voters.”
No one could honestly believe she or her supporters care about the voters in Florida. They voted to strip those states of votes and only switched their position when it became politically expedient to do so.
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@Bill why don’t you look to the Obama camp and you may see some more of this. They bully people come on sites and call people morons. I’m just asking questions but I don’t seem to get many answers.
@John yes you may be stupid if you are blindly following Obama without looking crtically at the his associations and wondering who this man really is.
@ehren — Obama took his name off the ballot. Is it fair that 30 people in a room decided what 600,000 people actually meant when they voted. Last time I checked this is a democracy and all votes should count as they where cast now as some back room deals decide. That is how we got George W 8 years ago.
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Take, for example, the extreme dishonesty of this particular “essay.”
I’m sure everyone is aware how the DNC rules committee vote yesterday to pretty much spit in the face of democracy when the split Florida’s delegates in half and basically said those voters did not count.
The sheer dishonesty is pretty galling.
First off, the RNC halved the delegates from Florida as well. Does this freak out Clinton supporters? Do they think the RNC practices “slavery” (as I’ve heard Clinton supporters claim the DNC is doing) by halfing the delegates? Of course not, because they don’t care about voters or democracy, they care about getting the result they want… not what is fair or right.
More to the point:
The number of delegates bears little relation to votes.
States that lean heavily democratic get more delegates than red states.
States that voted late in the primary cylce received BONUS delegates.
etc.
etc.
I’ve seen no one complain about this, despite the fact that it should be just as offensive to anyone who thinksing halving delegates of a state means the votes weren’t counted.
Or does Democracy mean that Rhode Island votes count for more than Georgia votes? That West Virginia votes count more for going later than Iowa votes?
Of course, it would require a basic level of honesty to grapple with these facts. Something that seems quite lacking here.
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Boy, are you going to regret leaving comments open.
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Admin:
Voters were told the contest did not count. This means many voters stayed home. This means many other voters voted in the republican primary instead, even though they cared more about the democratic party. And lastly, it means that some voters voted for candidates they didn’t favor.
You comment that “uncommitted” votes may have been for Daffy Duck. Yes, but Hillary voters might have wanted to vote for Obama or Edwards. In fact, a significant number of hillary voters (according to exit polls) said they would have voted for someone else if all the names were on the ballot.
No one with any shred of integrity could pretend the Michigan contest should count.
Although by your logic I assume you think the Washington state primary votes should count towards the vote totals too? I mean, it was an unsanction contest but tons of people came out to vote. Can we disenfranchise them?
Oh, but wait… counting the washington primary would hurt Hillary’s popular vote totals, so lets ingore that.
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Admin,
In 2004, Michigan tried to move its primary up, and Terry McCauliffe (who was DNC head at the time) told them they wouldn’t get anywhere NEAR the convention if they did, and then challenged them to try it.
They didn’t, becuase they KNEW he would strip them of any delegates whatsoever.
Michigan (and Florida) gambled this time, and lost. The fact they get any voice is conciliatory at best, disingenuous to the millions of voters who DIDN’T go because they knew the votes wouldn’t count at worst.
By allowing them 1/2 votes, Barack Obama LOST GROUND on his lead over Hillary Clinton, when he shouldn’t have lost ANYTHING.
Oh, and Florida. The vote to move up the Primary was UNANIMOUS. NO ONE voted against it, so the cry of “Republican Interference” has no merit. EVERY DEOMCRAT VOTED FOR IT.
The voters of Florida should be mad AT THEIR REPRESENTATIVES and not at the DNC. They should VOTE THEM OUT in November if they don’t want “disenfranchisement”, and be grateful they had ANY say in this primary.
To take it out on the rest of the country by voting in (via votes OR abstention FROM voting) the Republican carbon copy, and allowing 4 more years of being disenfranchised CITIZENS is really a poor way to express your feelings.
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Last time I checked this is a democracy and all votes should count as they where cast now as some back room deals decide.
Well you disagree with Sen. Clinton, who wants to discount all caucus state votes from the vote totals.
But I ask again:
Should Washington state’s primary count towards vote totals?
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@ Bill, I don’t think the Caucus states should be thrown out at all and I don’t blindly support Hillary. I do think she would be a better president than Barak, but tha tis not the point. I watched cspan so I do know what happened there. They gave votes from Hillary to Obama. They decide to vote for the people. This is just appeasement for the Clinton supporters and the DNC hopes these 17Million plus voters will come back around in Novemeber. I personally don’t think is going to happen, but good luck to you guys.
@Another Guy — I beleive in free speech and I will allow any comments as long as they are not threating in nature. I also have the ability to delete any that cross the line.
@Kretgar — How would you feel if your vote was taken and given to Hillary or heaven forbid Mccain. You cn say what you want about John Mccain, but he is a true American and loves this country. I’m not sure Barak Obama shares those same sentiments. I’m an American first and a democrat second. Obama will not be good for this country and if given the choice of him and Mccain I’ll take Mccain everytime.
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They gave votes from Hillary to Obama.
No they didn’t.
They basically said the votes didn’t count and picked a method they thought was fair to award the delegates.
As I pointed out above, delegates do not directly correlate to votes. Not AT ALL. Do you have a problem with all those other rules I mentioned to?
And again, do you think Washington’s primary votes should count as well?
This is just appeasement for the Clinton supporters and the DNC hopes these 17Million plus voters will come back around in Novemeber. I personally don’t think is going to happen, but good luck to you guys.
An honest question:
Do you believe that Obama’s 17 million plus voters would come back around in Novemeber if they took the nomination away from him?
I can understand the claims that many Hillary voters would not vote for Obama, but surely the same would be true if Obama loses the nomination. In fact, it would be even more true because his voters include independents who already like McCain and dislike Clinton and blacks and youth who tend to have low turnouts when their candidates of choice lose.
Or do you disagree?
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So again
- Do you think the RNC “spit in the face of democracy” by halving the Florida delegates? Or did only the DNC split in the face of democracy?
- Do you think that all the other rules that stretch or shrink delegate allocations are “spitting in the face of democracy”?
- Do you think the various other non-binding non-contests, like the Washington primary, should be counted in vote totals?
I’m just trying to see if there is anything close to consistency in your beliefs…
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“Its amazing what our country has become…”
So wait, you think that the selection of presidential candidates has become worse and less democratic than in the past? Have you ever taken a history class at all?
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I would not doubt that a tape of her being hateful and racist exists. After 20 years in a hate filled , racist , militant political church , Barack Hussein Obama and his whole family probably are like their church. What gets me tho is Obama’s ties to Ayers and Rezko. That is gonna sink him big time anyway.
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Bill, that is absolutely a valid question and something I do not know. Perhaps or Perhaps not. There is a lot of bad blood between these two camps of supporters. If you relied upon a lot of the exit polls for this answer then it would appear that more Obama supporters would go towards Hillary than the other way around, but this is not something anyone can answer for sure until an election. And you could very well say the same thing about the Hillary supporters and think they would fall in line. I really don’t know.
What I do know is Obama can not beat Mccain with all the baggage he has. There have been a lot of questions in my mind and a lot of other Democrats about what Obama is really about. Its apparent that he cna give agood speech and promise a lot of change, but what that change actually is I’m at a loss as he has not really said. If you listen to the comments coming out of his church ( which he just quit) then you can get an idea of what his priorities are becuase he does not really tell you what he is all about. And not once have I heard him specifically denounce any of the idealogy that comes from his friends. People tend to believe like the people around them, so perhaps he believes just as Wright and Pfleger believe. So I ask you can you admit the chance he thinks like this and if there is that chance is this a person who belongs in the White house?
As far as Washington State, I’ll admit I’m not familar with what you are referring to so I do not have an opinion on that contest.
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Hillary stands proud, she stands tall, she stands up for us and for America every single day!
She is THE electable candidate in this race and represents the WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
Don’t let anyone tell you any different.
For any Superdelegate to vote against THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE and steal this nomination from the MAJORITY OF VOTERS is a miscarriage of justice and a rape of Democracy in America.
I am so sick and tired of people that just don’t get it! Oh, no, no, no, there is NO QUIT in us! There is NO RETREAT! There is NO GIVING UP OR GIVING IN!!
WE THE PEOPLE WILL NOT BE DENIED OUR VOTES OR OUR RIGHTS!! OUR MAJORITY VOICE WILL BE HEARD AND HONORED BY THE DNC IN FULL!!
HILLARY CLINTON AND WE THE PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT HER REPRESENT THE WILL OF THE MAJORITY OF THE VOTERS!!
WE ARE STRONGER THAN EVER NOW!! OUR NUMBERS ARE GROWING BY THE DAY!!
TODAY IS JUNE 1, 2008. THE VOTES OF, BY, AND FOR THE PEOPLE ARE WITH US AND TIME IS ON OUR SIDE!!
REMEMBER AND SHOUT IT LOUD AND CLEAR TO EVERYONE AND EVERYWHERE:
ON TO DENVER AND VICTORY IN NOVEMBER FOR WE THE PEOPLE AND THE 44th PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON!!
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This is not the first time I have heard this “Whitey” tape exsisting. This man Obama is poison and so is his wife. Come on Republicans, you have an obligation to release this. Our country is in trouble. We need a qualified candidate to run against McCain in the fall. Do your duty and release this tape now.
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@Sean, yes I’ve had a few but not as a major. How is it democratic when votes are decided by 30 people? Why don’t you just educate me on history. Lets start with Germany and Hilter. Tell me how Hitler won his election and what happened after he was elected? Black Liberation Theology and Nazi politics seem to have a lot in common with each other. Not tha tI’m saying they are the same, but what I’ve been able to gather about BLT and what I remember from my college class on World History, they seem very similar in idealogy.
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Reading some of the paid obamabot’s posts are funny and stupid. “Stealing delagates from Hillary and giving Obama delagates that he did not get is hurting Obama: says Patrick.” what are you smoking? Wonder if they believe any of what they type?
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YEAH HILLARYS THE BEST WOOT ALL CAPS ALRIGHT YEAH
and if i hear one more ignorant hillary supporter say the word popular vote im gonna FORCE the truth down their throat. you know whos poison? ALL OF YOU FOR DIVIDNG THE PARTY BECAUSE YOU ARE SORE LOSERS. either that or racist. soon enough Hillary will have to endorse him, and i hope you cant sleep at night after.
cheating lesbians. Obama won. get over it. If their roles were reversed, Obama would have already left because hes a NICE GUY and not in it for PERSONAL BENEFIT. goddam you people scare me
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Hillary won by a 2 to 1 margin again. I guess that means: way to go Barack Hussein Obama, here take some more of her delagates then maybe you can win. Outspent her 4 to 1 but it didn’t matter or so Hussein Obama says. Yeah yeah I know , drink the koolaid so I can see clearly too. On to Denver because there is no clear favorite.
Hillary 08.!!!!!!
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What I do know is Obama can not beat Mccain with all the baggage he has.
If you look up the word baggage in a dictionary there is a picture of Hillary Clinton. Seriously, her baggage is far greater and more damaging than Obama’s. It is quite possible that Obama will lose to McCain. There is absolutely no chance that Hillary would even be competitive with McCain. Obama is not the strongest candidate the Dems could have fielded, but he is far stronger than Hillary.
Consider that Hillary had more name recognition, more money, a media that had already coroneted her and she still lost the primary.
Compound that with the fact that Hillary was only even competitive due to a demographic advantage that will not exist in the general election. Dem primaries are 60% female. The general election is not. Correct the vote totals in this primary cycle for gender and Hillary would have had to drop out long long ago (note: I realize Obama got a substantial advantage demographically in the deep south, but his black advantage was not nearly as pervasive or important as Hillary’s gender advantage).
I’m sorry, but Hillary could not win an election against Hilter’s dog in a race for town dog catcher. She BARELY won her senate seat, after being neopotistically gifted the primary, to some random nobody after Giulianni got cancer and had to drop out (she was LOSING to him handily in the polls prior to his dropping out)….and this is in the DEEPLY democratic state of New York. No way could she win a national election.
Hillary is absolotuley the least electable of all the major Democratic contenders. Biden, Richardson, Edwards… all would have won easily. Obama will likely win, though it will be tougher. Only Mike Gravel might have had a harder time than Clinton in a general.
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@rtnath — So because someone does not believe Obama speaks for most American’s makes thme a racist. That is what I’m sick of. You have no idea what the color of anyone’s skin is. The only racists I’ve seen come out in this campaign have all been Obama supporters.
We’ll talk about sore losers come November since once Obama is the nomineee this blog will become a Pro Mccain site. I’m sure this won’t be the only one.
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oh and about the FL and MI delegates.
-there are rules
-the state leaders broke them
-all the candidates agreed to take their names off in MI.
-Hillary went against her word
-They all agreed not to campaign in FL
-Hillary went against her word (ask anyone from florida if you dont believe me)
-HIllary sent in an official letter proclaiming her support for the DNCs decision to strip FL and MI of votes because she figured it was gonan be over by super tuesday.
-She went against her word.
so, overall, giving Obama the undecided votes is still a f*cking mockery of democracy. the people knew their votes didnt count you idiots. they voted to make a statement, not so they could fight later to have the delegates seated. Only when Hillary started losing did this idea pop up. and for the record about one third of the people that should have voted in FL and MI did, because the other 2 thirds knew THEY DIDNT COUNT.
and youre gonna tell me that Obama stole those undecided delegates? Hes recieved Edwards delegates anyway!! jeez…
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ya you and the other 5% of hillary supporters that b*tch and moan like Obama stole the election
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As far as Washington State, I’ll admit I’m not familar with what you are referring too so I do not have an opinion on that contest.
Jesus christ. You get your panties all in a twist about this and you don’t even know the basic facts about the primary season?
It is pretty hard to take you seriously.
Your intellectual dishonesty is truly offensive.
How is it democratic when votes are decided by 30 people?
no “votes’ hvae been decided by 30 people. You have no idea what you are talking about. The DNC did not change any votes, they awarded delegates as is their right. The RNC does the same thing and the DNC has a myriad of rules to apportion delegates, most of them having little to do with 1 man 1 vote.
But again, you don’t seem interested in educating yourself on even teh basics of political primaries.
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@Bill, I’m not sure where you are getting your data, but in every poll I’ve seen Hillary beats Mccain in all the swing states and Obama loses to Mccain in these same states. If you have some data from an independant third party who shows Obama winning in the GE, then I would love to see it because as of this time I have not seen one with real poll data that even shows Obama coming close in the GE
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what Hillary could have said to make me not hate her, btw, (as stated on CNN): “if you vote for me for racial reasons, i do not want your vote” has she said this? no. shes power hungry
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admin, on June 2nd, 2008 at 12:42 am Said:
@Bill, I’m not sure where you are getting your data, but in every poll I’ve seen Hillary beats Mccain in all the swing states and Obama loses to Mccain in these same states. If you have some data from an independant third party who shows Obama winning in the GE, then I would love to see it because as of this time I have not seen one with real poll data that even shows Obama coming close in the GE
You don’t pay much attention to politics I see.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/Jun01.html
The current polling data shows Obama beating McCain in the general. That is an independent site that just averages the polls by state.
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btw Obama has a totally different map their are a lot of new “swing states” like iowa wisconsin etc
fivethirtyeight.com
we can both agree on this site. I think it the most comprehensive statistical analysis out there, and right now it shows hillary with a greater shot. However the blogger wrote an article about how Obama wins 3 out of every 4 times if you add 40% more black vote than 2004 and 20% more youth, as we have been seeing in the primaries.
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@Bill, I do’t really care if you take me seriously or not. I’m not writing any of this for you or any of the Obama people. I write for me not anyone else. If you decide to read and comment then so be it.
I’m fairly educated and I know what happened. You are right about they assigned delegates, but a delegate is designated by a number of votes. So my statements are fairly accurate.
@rtnath — Obama as well as the other candidates chose ot take their name off the ballot there was no rule that said they must take their name off. Get your facts straight.
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of course there was no rule i never said that i said they agreed to take their names off, an agreement hillary broke. of course it wasnt an official rule
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Bill congrats that map has changed since the last time I looked. According to your source Obama beats Mccain 276 to 238. But you ailed to show the Hillary versus Mccain Map where she beats Mccain 327 to 194. What exactly is your argument with this?
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Clinton/Maps/Jun01.html
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I’m fairly educated and I know what happened.
No, you don’t. I’ve pointed out several, shall we say gaps, in your knowledge and in your argument and your only defense has been to plead ignorance of the rules and facts.
You don’t “know” what happened when you admit you didn’t know Washington held a primary.
You don’t “know” what is happening when you claim all polls show obama losing the GE when this is not the case at all. The polling averages all show Obama winning.
You are right about they assigned delegates, but a delegate is designated by a number of votes.
False. As I pointed out several times, there are myriad of rules governing the allocation and assigning of delegates and most of them run counter to 1 man 1 vote.
Obama as well as the other candidates chose ot take their name off the ballot there was no rule that said they must take their name off.
False. Obama and Hillary signed a pledge not to “participate” (as the wording went) in the Michigan primary. Obama and the other major candidates honored their pledge by taking their names off the ballot. Hillary broke her pledge by staying on.
We can quibble here, but I assume you can understand how someone could consider keeping your name on the ballot “participating” in the election.
etc.
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@rtnath — So it was not an offical rule. I misunderstood you. Tell me this which rules are official and which are not official? That way people will know how to compete and play by the rules.
Many people will say Hillary did not play by the rules when she asked the states to be couted, but the turth is the DNC did not evne consider Hillary wanting to count the states. Onl after the public outcry from various blogs did they even aggree to have a meeting on this measure.
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btw seriously http://www.fivethirtyeight.com trust it with your life
anyway
it wasnt a rule it was an agreement
and your right. The DNC wasnt even considering counting the votes because it was ludicrous. it was only after the hardcore hillbots got shouting about disenfranchising and “im gonna vote for McCain” that the DNC was forced to listen to this crazy idea. you blackmailed them and now youre unhappy because they didnt give you everything you wanted. sorry but you cant blackmail the party into giving you the nomination, otherwise theres no point to the primary process at all
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But you ailed to show the Hillary versus Mccain Map where she beats Mccain 327 to 194. What exactly is your argument with this?
Note: YOU are the one who claimed that polling data somehow proved anything. I don’t think it proves much at this stage (the same site showed Kerry beating Bush by a LANDSLIDE at this time in 04). I was just pointing out your factual incorrectness in claiming no polls show Obama winning.
If you want my honest opinion of why Obama is more electable than Clinton, I will give it to you. Note that I”m not an Obama person, he was not my first choice. But I do believe he is more electable as do most people who really follow these things.
1) Eletions are about turnout. Obama will turnout Dems in bigger numbers than Hillary (her supporters are yellow dog democrats mostly, Obama is getting excitement from groups that often don’t turn out in large numbers). Also, Hillary is despised by republicans. She would increase republican turnout.
2) Elections are about money. Obama has proved to be a much better cash machine than Hillary, whose donor base is already maxed out (thus why she is deep in debt)
3) Bob Barr. This guy will campaign in the deep south. Obama, due to his black advantage down there, might contest some of those states if Barr siphons off enough McCain voters. Even if he doesn’t, McCain will have to waste time and resources defending those states. Hillary won’t be a factor in the deep south.
4) As I noted, Hillary’s support has been vastly overestimated due to gender imbalance in Dem primaries.
5) Baggage. Hillary has a lot more of it, as I noted.
6) Fresh face. People are sick of the Bushes and Clintons. Against Hillary, McCain will paint himself as a change, a fresh face to washington. A maverick. Obama can paint him as a third Bush term and say HE is the new face. Hillary can’t do that.
7) Independents. They prefer Obama over McCain, but will flee to McCain if Hillary is the nominee.
I could go on and on.
Note I didn’t even factor in the fact that if Hillary were to win the nomination a gigantic number of Democratic voters would consider it a stolen election (only a tiny minority of die hard Hillary supporters consider Obama’s win illigitimate. I’d say at least 60% of Democratic voters, and perhaps 90% of independents would consider it stolen if Hillary got it)
Note that I also dont’ factor in what a horrible campaigner and speaker Hillary is compared to Obama. Obama has made a few gaffes, but Hillary is a gaffe machine (and she always compounds them by lying when they get pointed out. Like clailming she was tired and mispoke about Bosnian sniper fire that she had mentioned many times on the campaign trail)
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Wow. Don’t you guys know that your threats don’t work anymore? I’m not being a “bully” here, I’m just trying to let you know that these tactics won’t work…
Articles like this only make your candidate’s argument look less credible; make her look like she’s having to rely on smear campaigns rather than her own personal merit. I have nothing against Senator Clinton nor her supporters. But by using these smear campaigns, you only look desperate. I honestly can’t understand why you would say things like, “This man Obama is poison and so is his wife.” Where does that kind of animosity come from? Have you forgotten that the REPUBLICANS are the one who put this country “in trouble,” Mary? Do you not realize that they are using you in an attempt to fracture the Democratic Party? The whole “we can’t trust Obama” is Karl Rove at his finest, and obviously he has worked his magic on you. If you would look at Senator Obama through a clear lens, you would see he is just a man who, like your own candidate, wants what is best for this country. If you would judge him on his OWN merits, rather than falling for and perpetuating false attacks on his character, you would realize that he is a good man, with good intentions, and a brilliant mind. Doing a little research on your own, checking out his platforms, his plans, his advisors on foreign policy, domestic policy, economic policy, and looking at THOSE records would give you a very different picture of this man. I am not “brainwashed” as so many of you seem to believe, I merely have done my homework and realize that Senator Obama will make the best president. Not only does he inspire people to take part in the political process (that “empty rhetoric” you all so often denounce), but he also has an intelligent open mind and concrete plans for how this country needs to be resuscitated from the past Neocon/Bush-tainted 8 years. All you’ve got to do is think for yourselves rather than listen to and spread this propaganda. Because the majority of Americans are tired of this. And there are enough good people in this country who do not fall for these tactics, who will not use such “baggage” as a basis for their vote, who will do their research on policy positions, and who understand that a man is his own man, to put Senator Obama in the White House in January. Hillary supporters, I admire your candidate’s tenacity. But using rumors and slander and begging the Republican party to help you in your attempt to garner last minute support is not only wrong, it is ineffective political strategy. Ask yourselves if you would have this done to you. If not, then end it. True leaders have the courage and the ability to unite warring factions; we shall see what kind of leader Senator Clinton is by her actions over the next 5 days.
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Maybe everybody should go back and read some of the news stories from the time of the contested primaries.
You might find that not every official in those states held the same positions at the time that they do now.
You might find that some elected officials in Mi were unhappy with the candidates who removed their names from the ballot.
You might find that HRC said at the time that she didn’t take her name off the Mi ballot because it wasn’t necessary to do so.
You might find that by Fl rules taking your name off the ballot was prohibited unless you dropped out of the race.
You might find that the voting guides at the time told people in Mi explicitly that a vote for “uncommitted” meant that those delegates would go to the convention uncommitted.
You might find that Mi and Fl always expected (and still do expect) to have their full delegations reinstated after a nominee has been chosen.
Maybe if people take the time to revisit the issue, cooler heads will prevail.
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@Bill — I could respond, but I’m tired so I’ll digress and we’ll just have to agree to disagree. I will make one comment about Bob Barr, I’m from Georgia and don’t count on him taking many votes around here. A lot of people don’t think a lot of him. The republicans will win Georgia easily. Georgia is a red state no matter who is on the democratic ticket.
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“I’m from Georgia and don’t count on him taking many votes around here. A lot of people don’t think a lot of him”
He was polling around 8% last time I checked.
You forget how much everyone hates the Republican party right now, even if Georgia hates the dems as well.
Also, since you admitted your ignorance of it I’ll explain washington.
Washignton paid to have a primary but the Washington Dem party wanted to do it by caucus (as they have alwasy done). They held the caucus first and it was considered official by the DNC.
A few weeks later the primary was held. Far more people voted in the primary than the caucus, although Obama won both.
Since more people voted in the primary, why aren’t the people crying about Michigan and Florida not crying about Washington? Surely the primary’s votes hsould count.
Like michigan and florida it was an unsanctioned contest, but people still came out and the only argument i’ve heard for why MI and FL should count is because a lot of people voted and their voices “must be heard.”
Why aren’t the voices of Washington being heard?
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You are being manipulated by a guy named ROGER STONE who organized demonstrations to protest the florida recounts in 2000!!! He is a REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST who also set up the anti-hillary 527 group Citizens United Not Timid!! You are being played by the republicans! will you people wake up???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone
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Everyone is aware he is a Republican, but that does not mean the tape does not exist. This has been going around the net for a couple of weeks now. Stone was just saying he now believes it exists. We’ll just have to wait and see.
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Please, do us Kiwis a favor and stay out of our country. As if we need more right-wing nutjobs like you spouting off all over the place with your terrible, terrible accent and lording over us “simpler life” people.
I simply cannot wait until Obama wins your presidency.
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@Bill– Okay. Question are the delgates in WA being counted correctly? If so this is not near the same as what happened in FL and MI. Plus this post is about the Michelle Obama Video, so can we keep it on topic.
I’ll do some research on WA and make a post tomorrow or so about it. And if you are right about votes not getting counted accurately there then I will say they should be counted as everyone’s vote should be counted accurately.
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@Alex, you may be waiting a long time and I’m not a right wing anything. I’m a registered democrat who leans to the middle. In fact I would more accurately label myself as a moderate. And I have more right to be in this country than anyone as I’m a decendant of the real opressed people of America, the American Indian.
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I’m glad you have so much right to be in America. As I stated before- please, stay there.
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Sure Alex, I looked your IP up and see that you are in Japan, I don’t have any plans going there anytime soon so you are safe from us. Why are you commenting on a US election primary?
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I don’t know for a fact if such a video exists. But judging the character and attitude of Michelle Obama it seems very likely to me. And Larry knows things that the rest of us only imagine. What I do know is that we will probably be finding out the answer to the question VERY soon.
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Yeah, Plastic Jesus Obama finally opened up a lead on McCain according to electoral-vote.com. The site still shows Clinton with a bigger lead on McCain, though.
Assuming no new skeletons tumble out of Plastic Jesus’s closet to derail his candidacy first, the GOP/M$M attack machine will have loads of fun with poor PJ. They’ll make Bill Ayers his unofficial running mate in the same way they made Willie Horton Dukakis’s unofficial running mate. Every TV viewer will have the juicier points of Reverend “Jerekhan” Wright’s rants drilled into their skulls, courtesy of the GOP Mighty Wurlitzer, when the MW isn’t busy exploring his questionable connections to shady moguls like Rezko.
PJ is going to learn that you can’t throw a large portion of your party’s usual constituencies under the bus and still expect to win.
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“his questionable connections”=PJ’s, not Jerekhan’s, although he may have some of those, too.
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You’re right- I am in Japan, as I’m an exchange student!
I don’t recall claiming to comment on the election, beyond that I hope Obama wins. All I came here to say was to stay out of New Zealand. Although I’m glad you won’t be coming to Japan, too!
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Well I have quite a few Aussie and New Zealand friends. I think I’ll get by
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“A vote with only one candidate on the ballot is not very honorable”—Michael. You mean like when BO played by the rules and had the other two candidates, one being Alice Palmer (the incumbent) disqualified so he could be the only candidate when he ran for the IL Senate in 1996? BO didn’t play by the rules in FL, he showed up for a quick stop (campaign speech) in Tampa on April 19th…complete with a marching band, before attending a $2500 a plate campaign fundraising dinner that night for his POTUS run…then turned around and accused Hillary of campaigning there. Anyway, I agree with “admin”…the DNC did break their own rules.
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I also hope BO’s camp does not try to use the votes cast in the TX primaries and the caucus in popular vote totals, because the vote total should only be the actual number from the primary. We voted twice, but should not be counted twice. I don’t know how the caucus delegates have already added up since we haven’t had a state convention to determine that number. Actually the caucus was a joke. Some precincts in Austin were not finished until after 1am. Most people can’t and don’t stay up and vote that late.
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Umm, you idiot (towntalks.com..sad..), you know the Republicans also stripped florida delegates in half?
You’re so pathetic.
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Of course I know that. You are really missing the point here. I’m closing these comments on this post
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